Let me start off by
saying I enjoy and respect the men I work with. They’re great people, great attorneys, and just
the nicest they come. They respect me and treat me with great professionalism. I simply use this story as an illustration of the world and the societal norms around us, and not as a criticism of the individuals involved. So, then, if respectable, nice people can be unintentionally ignorant of women’s inequality issues, then
how are we going to change anything? These are the people we all hope would
take a stand or be more aware of what they say to or how they treat women. It could be my own dad, my own brother, anyone really. It concerns me when I see that no one is immune from playing into gender
stereotypes and naturally using jokes or comments to separate men from women. Especially when they have no idea that they are doing so. I
think maybe the problem is that "feminists" often
talk about the inequality and discrimination females experience, but don’t often
enough share how it manifested itself. It’s not just about being paid the same
or being offered the same jobs. Maybe men/people don’t understand when things
are offensive because we talk about being offended, but not always about why.
Well, I’m going to try to explain why...
In my firm there are
three male partners, myself (the only associate and only female attorney), two
female secretaries, and one female receptionist. Yesterday, a secretary pointed
out that I could ride to firm lunch with the assistants/girls, or go with the attorneys/boys.
I was right in the middle….either I ride with the three women because I’m a
woman and I enjoy chatting with them, or I ride with the three men because I’m
an attorney and I enjoy working with them. I made a comment that if we ever had
to vote on something, I would be the “swing vote.” I either side with my fellow
women, or I side with my fellow attorneys. One of the men made the comment, “Well, if you
did ever have to vote, you would only have, like, a 3/5 vote.” I, probably unfairly, became annoyed because he was, unintentionally, comparing me to the “all other Persons” that
were owned and only given 3/5 vote back in the day, even though he was likely only referring to his partner status and the fact that they are the bosses. After a follow-up comment that the fractional vote was part of history, I replied with my charming sarcasm that it was 2015 and I thought I probably deserved more than that. I climbed into the car with my fellow women. When we arrived at the
restaurant, I reiterated that I did not need a history lesson about suffrage. That was not the point.
We went about our day and
it never came up again. For some reason, though, I kept thinking about it that night and on my way to work this morning. I replayed
all the times in my year and a half as an attorney that people have assumed I’m
a secretary or paralegal. I couldn't count on two hands. I am not in any way
diminishing the role of secretary or paralegal, but the fact that people assume
I am one because I’m a young woman is ridiculous. I also had a classmate
mention once in passing that I was probably getting more second-interviews and
follow-ups in my job search than some of my classmates because I was a “pretty
girl.” I know he meant it to be a compliment, but it only discredited
everything I had done and accomplished in my academic career. I paid money and
worked hard for my law school degree and my license to practice. I have the
same J.D. that men have, and I probably accomplished more in law school
than many of them did. I passed the same bar exam and have the same piece of
paper that allows me to practice. The fact that my name gives me away as a female,
or that I have a higher voice on the phone should not change the amount of
respect I receive.
I worked myself up as I
thought about all of these things on my way to work because I just don’t see
things changing. Not too long ago, I spoke with opposing counsel for a case on the phone,
and he told me that his wife and daughter were both attorneys, so I “wasn't
dealing with someone that disrespects female attorneys.” For a split second I
was appreciative of this older man for being aware of the problem, but then my appreciation
changed to disappointment because the fact that he had to make a point of that
was degrading in itself. The statement separated him from me because I am a
woman. Even though he thought he was leveling the playing field, he was really
only acknowledging that there is a
difference between us. It shouldn't be a matter of changing the way you treat
me because I’m a woman, you should just treat me the same because I’m opposing
counsel and a fellow attorney.
I guess I’m just waiting
for jokes or comments about women to be as offensive as racist jokes and comments. While I do not
AT ALL pretend to even begin to understand the struggles that those of
different races face, I also can’t ignore the similarities in the struggles
that women have faced and continue to face every day. I can almost guarantee that someone would not make a joke about a lesser vote to a black employee, intentionally or unintentionally.
The man on the phone would not have told a black attorney that it was okay
because his wife and daughter were black, so there would be no mistreatment. Those jokes/comments would have been offensive in that context. So
why were these situations “okay” in the context of gender?
The saddest thing about
all of this? I hesitate to "complain" about this because I don’t want to be
the “emotionally unstable, overreacting woman.” The biggest problem with the
gender equality movement is that half the people in the world roll their eyes
at women who take a stand and are assertive, and the other half roll their eyes
at women who are submissive or emotional. We just can’t win! I can’t be
assertive about something because it is disrespectful for a woman to do so, but
commendable for a man; and I can’t react emotionally because it is an
overreaction, or it’s too submissive and shrugged off because I’ll “eventually get over it.” Whether I’m assertive or emotional, it’s going to be looked at as a dramatic response. But why is anyone rolling their
eyes at all? I shouldn't have to or want to distance myself from my own gender's character traits. I just want to be allowed to work where I want to work, feel how I
want to feel, communicate how I want to communicate, and I want that to be okay
with everyone. I don’t want people to make
it okay, I just want it to be okay.
A little Ruth Bader Ginsburg quote to summarize:
“So now the perception is, yes, women are here to stay. And when I’m sometimes asked when will there be enough [women on the Supreme Court]? And I say when there are nine, people are shocked. But there’d been nine men, and nobody’s ever raised a question about that."
UPDATE: As I mentioned in my facebook post, I read this article a day or two after I wrote this blog post:
https://nerdist.com/yes-jeremy-renner-and-chris-evans-black-widow-comments-are-problematic/
The article ultimately makes the same point: that Jeremy and Chris (yes, we're on a first name basis) aren't bad guys, they just made comments that are commonly accepted and didn't think twice about it. And what do we do about that?
A little Ruth Bader Ginsburg quote to summarize:
“So now the perception is, yes, women are here to stay. And when I’m sometimes asked when will there be enough [women on the Supreme Court]? And I say when there are nine, people are shocked. But there’d been nine men, and nobody’s ever raised a question about that."
UPDATE: As I mentioned in my facebook post, I read this article a day or two after I wrote this blog post:
https://nerdist.com/yes-jeremy-renner-and-chris-evans-black-widow-comments-are-problematic/
The article ultimately makes the same point: that Jeremy and Chris (yes, we're on a first name basis) aren't bad guys, they just made comments that are commonly accepted and didn't think twice about it. And what do we do about that?
Oh my gosh- those comments you got from the guy on the phone and your co-worker are so hilarious/infuriating! It's funny b/c I would assume I would get more comments in rural Idaho than Boise, but the most offensive thing I've heard as a female attorney so far was at a CLE in Boise. Some guy was introducing a female speaker who was a district judge and had accomplished a lot and attained high status. He said, in effect, that her status was not acquired just because of her gender, but he could personally affirm that she really deserved it. What?? I almost laughed out loud! I mean, I guess the poor guy was trying to be sensitive and complimentary, but only managed so sound like a total a$$ wipe. But I want to offer a metaphor to you that I use whenever I hear/encounter stuff like this: One time I was in church and I was watching this cute little toddler try to crawl around the foyer in an adorable dress. She couldn't do this very effectively because of her pretty little dress. It pissed me off. Especially when I saw her male counterpart crawl past her in his Sunday pants. Why should her development be compromised by everyone else's expectations that she look like a little doll? I saw into my future. I would be the obnoxious feminist that everyone rolled their eyes at because her daughter wore play clothes to church. But then I saw something awesome: the little girl started trying out a bear crawl (and rocked it). This enabled her to get around in spite of her pretty little dress that her parents/society had inflicted upon her. I was so proud of her. She had to innovate and problem solve, and now she knows how to crawl AND how to bear crawl. That's an advantage she has to her male counterpart, who never had to use his brain to solve that problem, much less had to practice a new way to crawl to get around the problem. So now whenever someone thinks I'm a secretary, or whenever my mom has to against the boys' club down in Argentina on her mission (she's the first mental health person they've had down there, and they do NOT know how to treat her) I comfort myself by thinking of the little girl who took a challenge given her b/c of societal expectations of her gender and took it as an opportunity to innovate and better herself. She is better than me because she does it without complaining, but that's mostly because she doesn't know yet that the world is unfair. Still, she inspires me. Because it might never get totally better, but it could be that the joke is on THEM. :) Hope that helps, at least once in a while.
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